[guide-user] Selective Satellites

Kenneth Drake drako_kenneth at suddenlink.net
Mon Apr 27 12:47:36 EDT 2020


It appears that info has been passed around about his observation(s) of 
Neptune for many years. I had been following several links and ended up 
finding this:

https://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.universityworldnews.com%2Ffilemgmt_data%2Ffiles%2FUWNGALILEO.doc

That led me to try to simulate it in common planetarium software. Most 
have a hard time dealing with the times. Anyway, it was a nice learning 
process. It all started with finding an answer to who discovered 
Neptune. It appears that the people that independently worked out its 
orbit, not the person that actually found it visually.

Kenneth Drake

On 4/27/2020 11:14 AM, Rev. Pat Madden - St. Benedict Church, Grambling 
wrote:
> Wow!  This is amazing!  Especially, if you are correct -- and it looks like you are right on! -- it appears that Galileo actually saw Neptune, but mistook it for a "fixed" star.  Fixa is the feminine form of the Latin participial adjective, and I think it would be short for stella fixa, "a fixed star."
>
>
> Pat Madden
>
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> Subject: Re: [guide-user] Selective Satellites
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> Here is what I've been able to simulate using Guide 9.1. Without knowing
> the full vagaries of the time zone at Pisa in 1612, I used what I could
> knowing what it is today. I had to assume that Galileo would observe
> Jupiter when crossing the meridian which I find to be around 4UT and 50
> degrees up. To get the simulation to approximate his notes, I had to
> believe that his drawing was made in the middle of Nautical twilight -
> 06:50 Central European Time. Jupiter up 45 degrees. A direct link to my
> image is here if it does not come up in the forum.
>
> https://i.imgur.com/PCvFshQ.jpg
>
> Kenneth Drake  Willis, Texas
>
> On 4/25/2020 2:27 PM, Kenneth Drake wrote:
>> Thanks. That worked great. I was simulating the configuration of the
>> Jovian moons when Galileo made several observations of Jupiter in 1612
>> and 1613. I found some of his notes and Guide 9.1 does a really nice
>> job of displaying the positions marked by Galileo over the month long
>> period. He saw Neptune also and there is a lot of controversy about
>> some of his notes. Thanks for a great product.
>>
>> Kenneth
>>
>> On 4/25/2020 1:26 PM, Bill Gray wrote:
>>> Hi Kenneth,
>>>
>>>     The setting you tried would only adjust artificial
>>> earth satellites.
>>>
>>>     In that same Display/Data Shown dialog,  set planet
>>> magnitudes to be 'fixed' (i.e.,  not varying with zoom
>>> level) and set the limiting magnitude to,  say,  10.
>>> After the Galileans,  the next brightest satellite of
>>> Jupiter is somewhere around 16.  You'll suppress everything
>>> except the Galileans.
>>>
>>> -- Bill
>>>
>>> On 4/25/20 2:16 PM, Kenneth Drake wrote:
>>>> Is there a way to selectively only show the Galilean Moons and none
>>>> of the other satellites of the planets? I tried Display/Data
>>>> Shown/Satellites but has no effect.
>>>>
>>>> Kenneth Drake  Willis, Texas
>>>>
>>>>
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