<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">My experience differs regarding using the “red mode” -“alt-r” built into GUIDE , my IBM Thinkpad display<i class=""> still leaks enough side-lighting </i> to ruin my night vision ,esp for the faint DSO’s example 14-15th mag galaxies . <div class="">The 3mm acrylic sheet I use is from tap plastics , is actually about 20% deeper darker red than the wratten 25 . Attached with velcro around edges of screen. </div><div class="">Cuts all the blue/white light you get from the sides and top that you see when not looking directly at the display. Sure on the cold wet nights I’d fogged time to time.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 2, 2020, at 7:26 AM, P. Clay Sherrod <<a href="mailto:drclay@tcworks.net" class="">drclay@tcworks.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">That will not cut down the harmful portions of the spectrum that will interfere with your night vision and/or sensitivity of the camera sensors.<br class="">You really MUST use the Wratten 25 Red (which is what Rubylith is....).<br class="">Unfortunately since the age of digital photography began and darkrooms are pretty much obsolete to the amateur, find this stuff as you mention is just not going to happen in small quantities.<br class="">You will have light fogging using your Plexiglass and I do not recommend anyone using it both for visual and for photographic purposes; using the RED coloration built into GUIDE is just as effective as Plexiglass or any red sheeting other than Rubylith.<br class=""><br class="">Dr. Clay<br class="">-------<br class="">Arkansas Sky Observatories<br class=""><a href="http://www.arksky.org" class="">www.arksky.org</a><br class="">ASO MPC H45 - Petit Jean Mountain South<br class="">ASO MPC H41 - Petit Jean Mountain North<br class="">ASO MPC H43 - Conway West<br class="">Publications: http://arksky.org/publications<br class="">Join Arkansas Sky Observatories on Facebook<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----- Original Message -----<br class="">From: Bernd Klemt <bernd.klemt@hs-bochum.de><br class="">Reply-To: <bernd.klemt@hs-bochum.de><br class="">To: <guide-user@projectpluto.com><br class="">Sent: 4/2/2020 8:51:57 AM<br class="">Subject: Re: [guide-user] avoiding white spaces in toolbar with WIN10<br class="">________________________________________________________________________________<br class=""><br class="">Hello Patrick,<br class=""><br class="">I searched for Rubylith here in Germany. No luck, all are only selling 10m or 50m <br class="">rolls. But I found a company selling all kind of plastics. They have Plexiglas <br class="">(arcrylic glas), transparent and colored dark red with a width of 3 mm. And the <br class="">best is: they cut sheets to your wishes! I ordered 3 pieces for different laptops <br class="">and payed a little more than 20,- EUR including cutting, shipping and handling. A <br class="">few hours ago I got them. And I must say I'm excited. The optical quality is so <br class="">good, that I can read everything on a full HD 14" monitor. OK, a red font suffers <br class="">from low contrast ...<br class=""><br class="">You find its website here: <wwwmodulor.de><br class=""><br class="">The items I bought were <br class=""><https://www.modulor.de/plexiglas-gs-farbig-3-mm-3-0x-max-1500x-2000mm-dunkelrot-t<br class="">ransparent-3c01.html><br class=""><br class="">Am 23 Mar 2020 um 12:46 hat Patrick Maloney geschrieben:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi Everyone,<br class=""><br class="">Even a completely black computer screen (still turned on) is way too bright<br class="">to maintain night vision. Ok if you're an imager, but disastrous if you're<br class="">a visual observer.<br class=""><br class="">'Night vision modes' on astronomy software are utterly useless. The only<br class="">real solution is to place a red filter over the screen, preferably of<br class="">rubylith, which lets through red light only.<br class=""><br class="">Rubylith isn't cheap, but it is an excellent filter, and is available<br class="">online. There may be other similar products, but this is the only one I<br class="">know.<br class=""><br class="">Stay safe,<br class=""><br class="">Patrick<br class=""><br class="">On Mon, 23 Mar 2020, 12:40 , <portaball@tutanota.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi all,<br class="">I have a very similar question. Does anyone know a means to change the<br class="">background color of the toolbar ?<br class="">If I use the red mode, I feel it's still to bright on my laptop.<br class="">I have found a workaround with fullscreen mode, see:<br class="">https://www.projectpluto.com/update8b.htm#full_screen (22 september<br class="">2002), but there must be a bug: When I am using the shortcut a second time<br class="">(to get the toolbar back), it disappears !<br class="">Rudi<br class="">(chasseurdegalaxies)<br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Envoi sécurisé avec Tutanota. Obtenez votre propre adresse email chiffrée :<br class="">https://tutanota.com<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">23 mars 2020 à 10:31 de bernd.klemt@hs-bochum.de:<br class=""><br class="">Hello Luc, and Arild,<br class=""><br class="">thanks for your fast responses. Your answers worked! I hope that my WIN10<br class="">notebook will now not glare into my eyes when using at the telescope.<br class="">These<br class="">spaces were white even when set Guide to "red stars".<br class=""><br class="">In times of WIN XP you could change the color of every display element<br class="">seperately, but that seems to be gone :-((<br class=""><br class="">Clear skies<br class="">Bernd<br class=""><br class="">Am 23 Mar 2020 um 9:39 hat Luc Desamore geschrieben:<br class=""><br class="">Hello Berndt<br class=""><br class="">It is a registry entry<br class=""><br class="">in<br class=""><br class="">Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows<br class="">NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers<br class=""><br class="">Create a new string value<br class=""><br class="">value name : C:\guide9\guide9.exe /(if your program is located there<br class="">otherwise change the path)/<br class=""><br class="">value data : DISABLETHEMES<br class=""><br class="">Luc<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 2020-03-23 09:19, Bernd Klemt wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hello,<br class=""><br class="">I know that there was a trick to avoid the white spaces in the GUIDE9<br class=""></blockquote>toolbar<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">with WIN10. But I can't remember how to do It. Was it a registry entry or<br class="">something else?<br class=""><br class="">Please give me an advice or a link to a former mail, where the solution<br class=""></blockquote>was<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">presented. In times of Covid19 home office I can't access my mail<br class=""></blockquote>archive at my<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">office.<br class=""><br class="">Thanks in advance, clear skies and stay healthy<br class="">Bernd<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">Clear skies<br class="">Bernd<br class="">Bernd Klemt<br class="">Sternwarte Herne<br class=""><br class="">MPC (A18)<br class="">www.sternwarte-herne.de<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">guide-user mailing list<br class="">http://projectpluto.com/mailman/listinfo/guide-user_projectpluto.com<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">guide-user mailing list<br class="">guide-user@projectpluto.com<br class="">http://projectpluto.com/mailman/listinfo/guide-user_projectpluto.com<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>